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awareness
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| awouldbehipster | Responses to "Consciousness and Primordial Awareness" (page: 1 2 3 4 5) | 91 | Jan 25 2011, 1:34 PM EST by mumuwu | ||
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Thread started: Apr 14 2010, 4:36 PM EDT
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Use this thread to engage in dilalog regarding my short essay "Consciousness and Primordial Awareness."
P.S. I am unable to insert the text for this page from my work computer, as WetPaint is not compatible with such an outdated version of Internet Explorer. I'll try to post the article this evening. P.S.S. OK, it's up. Let's dialog... |
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| Rogelio74 | Awareness/Consciousness | 6 | Jan 23 2011, 6:37 PM EST by Davlaw | ||
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Thread started: Jul 27 2010, 11:54 AM EDT
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Hello.I´m new here. My name is Rogelio, and I´m writing from Spain.I´d greatly appreciate any word you may say on it., if you´re able to understand my english.Two questions:
1/ I found this website while searching for the source of all this confusion about "Consciousness" and "Awareness" that seem to be a semantic matter, but it´s been confusing most spiritual practitioners more than any other problem I know. I don´t know if Jackson Wilshire´s approach is shared by Mr. Kenneth Folk, ( Kenneth, if you´re reading this it´d be great to read your take on this matter) but Jackson seem to share a similar view to the one Nisargadatta Maharaj holds, in the sense that both speak of Consciousness as "Consciousness of something finite", whether it is an object of perception (thought, sight, smell, etc.) or a fictious subject (the false "I"). On the other hand, Awareness would coexist but not depend on finite perception, and it´d be the one aware of those appearences and dissapearences of Consciousness itself through the waking state, dreaming, deep sleep, coma, death, is this correct ? OK , but ,is this Awareness aware of its own existence without the need of finite perceptions? Does Awareness need "Consciousness" (that is, objective perceptions AND a physical support, let´s say a body, mind, a brain) in order to be self aware ? 2/ Is this Awareness the first "emanation" from the Absolute or is it the Absolute itself? Many traditions imply that the Absolute (Ein Sof, Parabrahman...) is not aware of Its own existence until the first emanation (Awareness Itself) appears and eventually Awareness will dissapear again, leaving again an Absolute that is not Self Aware. I´ve had this discussion with some teachers and they say that this is the ultimate truth, usually hidden because our fear of unconsciousness. Thanks. |
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| Mark_VanWhy | That is a very wonderful essay. | 0 | Apr 15 2010, 3:01 AM EDT by Mark_VanWhy | ||
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Thread started: Apr 15 2010, 3:01 AM EDT
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I often listen to lectures on the Satipatthana Sutta, and I am always hopping up and down in my chair when the person giving the discourse gets to the part "breathing in long, the meditator knows I breath in long" etc. I have listened to many many many discourses and every teacher mentions the breathing, but no one ever mentions the knowing! In the terms you are describing, what do you make of "the knowing" that is mentioned over and over in the Satipatthana Sutta?
EDIT: Sorry this was meant to go in the pre existing "Responses to Consciousness and Primordial Awareness" thread, I didn't mean to start a whole new thread. |
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